Comments on: Deep Church and the Atrophied Elder http://evanweeks.com/deep-church-and-the-atrophied-elder/ Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied. Matthew 5:6 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 01:49:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Evan http://evanweeks.com/deep-church-and-the-atrophied-elder/comment-page-1/#comment-40 Evan Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:41:35 +0000 http://evanweeks.com/deep-church-and-the-atrophied-elder/#comment-40 And how cool is it, now, that Jesus has shattered the restrictions on who can move into that inner court and be ushered, by Him, into the Holy of Holies into the presence of God the Father? All that is required is surrender and subsequent faith. All can kneel at the feet of God who are cleansed by the sacrifice of Jesus' blood. Gives me chill bumps. And how cool is it, now, that Jesus has shattered the restrictions on who can move into that inner court and be ushered, by Him, into the Holy of Holies into the presence of God the Father? All that is required is surrender and subsequent faith. All can kneel at the feet of God who are cleansed by the sacrifice of Jesus’ blood.

Gives me chill bumps.

]]> By: mo7888 http://evanweeks.com/deep-church-and-the-atrophied-elder/comment-page-1/#comment-35 mo7888 Fri, 09 Oct 2009 13:59:25 +0000 http://evanweeks.com/deep-church-and-the-atrophied-elder/#comment-35 "All gathered around the wellspring of life that is Jesus, the disciples in His inner circle, with seekers in an outer circle." Even though this quote wasn't the main point of your post i want to make one observation because this is a beautiful picture. In your previous post you spoke of the correlation between the 23rd Psalm and the Lord's Prayer (as you did in Sunday School). To me this picture is a fulfillment or at least an illustration of the Temple in the Old Testament with the Holy of Hollies, the inner court, and the outer court. It's just a majestic picture..... “All gathered around the wellspring of life that is Jesus, the disciples in His inner circle, with seekers in an outer circle.”

Even though this quote wasn’t the main point of your post i want to make one observation because this is a beautiful picture. In your previous post you spoke of the correlation between the 23rd Psalm and the Lord’s Prayer (as you did in Sunday School). To me this picture is a fulfillment or at least an illustration of the Temple in the Old Testament with the Holy of Hollies, the inner court, and the outer court. It’s just a majestic picture…..

]]> By: Bob http://evanweeks.com/deep-church-and-the-atrophied-elder/comment-page-1/#comment-30 Bob Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:39:11 +0000 http://evanweeks.com/deep-church-and-the-atrophied-elder/#comment-30 Interesting... I thought you answered this question in your previous post... “Give us today our daily bread,” “The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be in want. He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters.” “Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.” “he restores my soul. He guides me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.” “And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.” “Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.” Of note is that it is God who is doing the leading, the restoring, the delivering, the comforting. So what then are we to do? Pray until God makes his Will known, and then follow wherever it leads you. There is a danger, if I may be so bold, with someone of your temperament, that of activism: seeing failings in the people and the system around you and wanting to jump ahead of God's Will to fix them. God has His own time and His own ways and He will prepare the way for whatever He calls you to. I do not claim to know whether or not God has already prepared the way and the time is now, but I do know (from personal experience) that if God has a work to be accomplished and you give Him control of your life and bend your will to His then much more good will be accomplished. If I may also offer a piece of advice. I don't know what teaching you've had on fasting, but it is an incredibly powerful tool in the spiritual arsenal and can truly help bring your will into line a lot more quickly than many other "spiritual exercises". Most of all, pray. Pray and seek God's Will, and though the road will be hard (I can guarantee it - Christ suffered humiliation and death on a cross, can we, His disciples expect anything less?) it will bear great fruit. Interesting… I thought you answered this question in your previous post…

“Give us today our daily bread,” “The Lord is my shepherd, I shall not be in want. He makes me lie down in green pastures, he leads me beside quiet waters.”

“Forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven our debtors.” “he restores my soul. He guides me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.”

“And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one.” “Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.”

Of note is that it is God who is doing the leading, the restoring, the delivering, the comforting. So what then are we to do? Pray until God makes his Will known, and then follow wherever it leads you.

There is a danger, if I may be so bold, with someone of your temperament, that of activism: seeing failings in the people and the system around you and wanting to jump ahead of God’s Will to fix them. God has His own time and His own ways and He will prepare the way for whatever He calls you to. I do not claim to know whether or not God has already prepared the way and the time is now, but I do know (from personal experience) that if God has a work to be accomplished and you give Him control of your life and bend your will to His then much more good will be accomplished.

If I may also offer a piece of advice. I don’t know what teaching you’ve had on fasting, but it is an incredibly powerful tool in the spiritual arsenal and can truly help bring your will into line a lot more quickly than many other “spiritual exercises”.

Most of all, pray. Pray and seek God’s Will, and though the road will be hard (I can guarantee it – Christ suffered humiliation and death on a cross, can we, His disciples expect anything less?) it will bear great fruit.

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